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Big BOSS

From: Ebaysucks.com
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 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 03-31-2008 19:07
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arrakis, I belive ebay has done away with the sellers not begin able to leave feedback cause i did so the other day unless this just effects new ebay sellers.
N/M heard it pushed back till may

 




Sarentack
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 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 03-30-2008 16:41
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It is sad to say but what can you expect considering eBay being the crooks they are (Pay Pal included).

Not only has ebays feedback always been controlled by crooks by teaching them the anything is free system by the following method.

1) Place bid

2) Leave neg. feedback

3) Receive refund

4) Maybe retract feedback

But also their new feedback rule really levels the field for the dishonest ebayer.
of course you can monitor the buyers past feedback habbits by viewing their buyer & seller feedbacks.
However, many have their feedbacks are kept Private, the seller is not permitted the same option.

Also most dishonest ebayers have separate accounts making it even more uneven.
Plus, sniping services make buyer qualifications totally impossible for the seller.
With buyer being able to place a bid with only seconds to go.

Also, myself having (Real) employment in customer relations have found over the years,
Many satisfied customers only give a Good Rating vs. Excellent even when nothing is wrong,
Making for only a 4 star rating being placed instead of a 5 star.
Meaning a seller average of 4.5 is normal.
Making a small dip below 4.5 extremely easy.

The only Real Solution is we need a new auction service leaving ebay & Pay Pal in the dust.
Will it happen? Will buyers convert??

I don't know, But we definitely all need a change.

Their was one at one time, everytime a auction place pops up, ebay find some way to destroy it much like what happened to bidbay, and all other auctions including yahoo auctions.

 




SellersAccounts
Big BOSS

From: Ebaysucks.com
Messages: 829
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 03-30-2008 16:38
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arrakis, I belive ebay has done away with the sellers not begin able to leave feedback cause i did so the other day unless this just effects new ebay sellers.

 




arrakis
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From: N/A
Messages: 1
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 03-30-2008 10:40
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The Thing that really stopped me from selling on ebay was their new anti-seller feedback that Sellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers. This change will occur in May, 2008. After 10+ years as even a small seller and not being able to leave negative feedback for deadbeat buyers is ridiculous. That's it... I'm done. Time to move on nothing else to do here folks but get screwed as a seller. ebay needs to change their url for sellers to fbay because that's all they are now the triple F auction service
f*** the sellers by not allowing them to report negative information about bad buyers to other sellers
f*** the buyers by denying them choice and driving the good sellers out of ebay
Fees galore. It used to be you could actually sell small items by charging just item & Postage. Now with so many fees that even on small items I have to add $3 to $5 in Handling charges to just break even and make no money at all. This is madness

 




baleaves
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Messages: 1
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 02-03-2008 18:38
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i quit buyin on ebay a couple months ago because i got scammed by some jerk!

i still have the accounts i will leave as many as they will let me im bored anywase

good idea!

 




somthin4nothin
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Messages: 1
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 02-03-2008 18:29
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this is so awesome im putting it on my Myspace page!

bought 2 so far!

Why didnt i think of this? lol

 




LowDown
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From: SELLER ACCOUNTS FOR LESS $$
Messages: 36
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 02-03-2008 09:38
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It is sad to say but what can you expect considering eBay being the crooks they are (Pay Pal included).

Not only has ebays feedback always been controlled by crooks by teaching them the anything is free system by the following method.

1) Place bid

2) Leave neg. feedback

3) Receive refund

4) Maybe retract feedback

But also their new feedback rule really levels the field for the dishonest ebayer.
of course you can monitor the buyers past feedback habbits by viewing their buyer & seller feedbacks.
However, many have their feedbacks are kept Private, the seller is not permitted the same option.

Also most dishonest ebayers have separate accounts making it even more uneven.
Plus, sniping services make buyer qualifications totally impossible for the seller.
With buyer being able to place a bid with only seconds to go.

Also, myself having (Real) employment in customer relations have found over the years,
Many satisfied customers only give a Good Rating vs. Excellent even when nothing is wrong,
Making for only a 4 star rating being placed instead of a 5 star.
Meaning a seller average of 4.5 is normal.
Making a small dip below 4.5 extremely easy.

The only Real Solution is we need a new auction service leaving ebay & Pay Pal in the dust.
Will it happen? Will buyers convert??

I don't know, But we definitely all need a change.

 




dsouth
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From: N/A
Messages: 10
 Ebay's new FB system is a Nightmare for Sellers!
Sent: 02-03-2008 08:53
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The Game is already being played, EBay is just changing the game rules.
In a game, all the players should start out equal and this is not the case with Ebays new FB system.
The Buyer now has all the power in the feedback game and the seller gets Squat, zip, notta, Zilch!

EBay¡¦s thoughts„³> Resistance is futile, you will all be assimilated!

Crooks have manipulated eBay and its listing for a long time now.
It has now become way too easy to take a good honest seller, with great feedback, and stick his sales in the toilet.

The new feedback system will allow for a seller and or buyer ¡§Crook and or Crooks¡¨ to manipulate the system easier then ever before..

Lets say we have a powerseller or just a plain old seller for that matter "Lets call this seller "powerseller A"..
Powerseller "A" has a very good FB score of 99% and all 4.8 or above on their DSR's ratings.. Powerseller ¡§A¡¨ is an outstanding person with high integrity and morals.

Under the new system, Powerseller "A¡¦s" listings would be placing in the top of the Ebay search ranks. Powerseller ¡§A¡¨ would enjoy a 15% fee cut on his FVF's. He would be on top of the Ebay world, but not for long!

Now along comes, seller "B" or Powerseller "B". He also has a good feedback rating of 100% , which is a higher rank than seller "A" has.
Seller "B" however has a lower DSR ratings than seller "A". Lets say Seller "B's" DSR ratings are 4.6 or higher, any lower than a 4.6 and the seller "B" would lose his status as a powerseller, OUCH!..
Even if seller "B" has a higher feedback score, Seller "B's" DRS ratings are lower so all his listings will rank below powerseller "A'" within the search ranks.

Powerseller "B" however is really 3 or 4 crooks working together.
These crooks only need and buy a few cheap products from powerseller "A". These blood suckers would even leave you a positive feedback for the sale but when it comes to the DSR ratings they nail powerseller "A" with very LOW ratings. At this point, a few cheap deals later, Powerseller "A'" DSR ratings drop below 4.6. Seller "A" is no longer eligible for powerseller status under the new Ebay guidelines. Seller ¡§A¡¨ would also loose the 15% discount on FVF's and their top search placements within Ebay.

Don't forget that every 7days under the new FB system the same crooks can leave FB again and unlike before it counts again. Every few days the crooks could repeat the above manipulation. Just a few miss placed DSR ratings could screw a good seller for about 30 days.

A few savvy crooks could end up controlling the EBay search ranks and in turn manipulating his or her competition. The crooks now have a simple way to take away the competition¡¦s powerseller status.

There is nothing like taking an already broken F.B. system and screwing it up even more!
What in hell is EBay thinking?

I have been on EBay for 10 years now and selling for 8, just when I think I have seen it all, eBay can't possibly get any dumber they prove me wrong, AGAIN!

Heck with Ebay's last price hike a few years ago, along with Papal, both of then together, already make more money on my items then I do. Now they want even more!? After EBay's last price hike I joined http://ebaykickbacks.com and that helped me recoup some of my lost profits, every little bit helps these days. With this new price hike and feedback system it looks like I just might be up, up the creek with out a paddle!

Oh well, at least I will have plenty of company in the boat with me. Let¡¦s see if it sinks faster than the titanic did.

At this point I am totally fed up with ebay and their actions, IMO they are out of touch with reality and have forgot who is paying the bills around here in the first place!

Some people were just born stupid, that can't be helped, but I think ebay worked real hard for their stupidity!

Take it from a 10+ year powerseller veteran of FEEBAY...
....If you are a new seller, with honesty and integrity, thinking about selling on Ebay you might think twice and don't walk away, RUN!



The Crooks will remain as crooks and the honest seller will be forced out.


GAME OVER, YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!


Dsouth

 






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